FORCED---To Do What You Secretly Want?

Clearly, when thoughts turn to submission, “forced bi” comes into play. We see it in videos, it's offered by professionals and you read about it here. Obviously the forced part is a misnomer as it is a concept and not really enact forced by, say a gun to the head. In my post you read about women who clearly were not looking to do these things without the ”encouragement “of their master. Nevertheless, if they had refused they certainly would not have been forced. They would've been punished but I have had slaves that were not interested in certain things and the difference between a master punishing a slave in the sexual submission sense, as opposed to the real sense of enslavement, as I will punish a slave for not doing what I want and then we would move on. In real forced servitude, obviously, people have been tortured until they did what they were supposed to or until they died or were crippled. Similar to when torture is used for coercion and confession. While dominance and submissives may explore similar themes this is more of a role-playing exercise where the level of punishment is just enough to give a slave the release of feeling they've been "broken". This was clearly the case with M who never expressed any specific interest to be with another woman, and S who had fantasies but never voiced any desire to act them out. For K this was obviously what she wanted as she found her own women to be with and for Kayla this is a fantasy that she had expressed the desire to act out. Now while I am clear that M and S would not have ever been with another woman except for me or someone like me, so this is about as close to forced as I can see. Because women with women have become pretty acceptable in our culture, probably because the culture is still somewhat run by men and this is something men enjoy watching, men with men is much less accepted. I think this is why submissive men often seem to turn to fantasies of being forced to service another man. This is a service offered by professional dominatrix’s. Even then, is a really forced when you hire someone to make all the arrangements you pay them a lot of money to then punish you and “make” you do these things? Of course not, but that's the point, it's a fantasy and sometimes were lucky enough to get to act out our fantasies! From the time I occasionally would join various Internet services to since starting my blogs, I occasionally get contacted by people on the net who would like to get to know me because of my fantasies and character. The overwhelming majority of them, though I don't advertise for this in any way or express an interest, are submissive men. They are often married and secretly want to be dominated by another man while their wives never know about this submissiveness, or their wives have recoiled away from joining them in their fantasies. I have also been contacted by couples. I try to be very flexible and I rarely rule anything out except for my hard and fast limits, I can't say I would never consider doing anything at all with a couple but it would be very limited as I don't have any attraction to men. The problem is that I can only see even attempting something with a submissive couple. But I'm also get contacted by couples where the woman is, then in the manner submissive and they want a dominant male to dominate the man in front of the woman. I tell them I appreciate their contacting me but since this arrangement limits the contact only with the male they really need to seek out somebody who is looking to do things with a submissive man. I can understand why so few submissive couples are out there because after both submissively may not of been drawn to each other in the first place because neither one can help the other act out their fantasies. I imagine the only submissive couples out there are ones who came together out of love and then realized afterwards that they both had submissive natures when they finally began to discuss some of their innermost fantasies. I get a lot of e-mail from submissive women who tell me that they meet a lot of submissive man but it's harder for them to find dominant man who they think are interesting, creative and also seems sane and safe. Unfortunately they always seem to be across the country or often even further than that, from other countries. I have a lot of readers of this blog from other countries and they often get e-mails from women who read the blog from those countries and when I translate the e-mail I find that they are complimenting me and wish that we were in the same area. I have received e-mail from dominant men who want to see their wives or girlfriends punished by another man in front of them. I haven't been so interested in that either though, because for me D/s is a sexual thing, and though I won't always have sex with someone when I punish them, especially if they've annoyed me or if we're doing a public sort of punishment, but there is always an element of sexual excitement there. I would not advertise to punish “bad girls” just to get the opportunity to punish more women if I were not going to be attracted to them or involved in some way. I don't judge anyone who does do that as I know there are many people meeting out there just for a spanking or other corporal punishment sessions, just making arrangements or professionally. There's nothing wrong with that but that's not what I've been looking for. Now sometimes these men want you to have sex with their girl in front of them also, but I don't have an interest in that. Besides actually watching these acts, there is definitely something sexy, at least for me, watching the submissive do something that not particularly fond of because they're submitting to me. It was much more exciting for me to watch M kiss another girl, or get whipped by one, then to watch K have sex with another girl because I knew she really wanted to and M was just doing those things for me. Just as it was more exciting for me to see M play with her asshole or S beg for a particularly hard paddling them to spend hours punishing K severely because again I knew neither one of them wanted those things nearly as much, while K was perfectly happy to be brutally punished and humiliated. Just like M fingering herself or S taking hard punishment, I enjoy watching women being with women primarily because they know I like it, as these are all things I like to watch, and these are things I get to watch because these women are submitting to me. When I have women together I enjoy one of them playing mistress to the other even when primarily I know they're both submissive women. There were times when S was supposed to dominate M, but prior to the scene S pissed me off in some way. Now things were all the same to me I would just call up M and tell her not to be naked and in position. If she got that command when she do was bring another woman then she knew she was to dominate another woman. If the other woman walked in and saw M dressed and out of position than that woman, unless it was the first time, knew that she was the one who was going to submit. However, M preferred to be the submissive one, I believe I've mentioned that even though she didn't particularly care for being with another woman am always wanted to be the submissive one who took all the punishment from me or on my behalf. This is because M know that's what I like to say and she considered the submissive being my focus and the dominant being a prop to get what I wanted. While not 100% accurate this was a pretty good idea on her part. So, unless I had a specific desire or reason to see M dominate the other, if it was all the same to me, then I would just have them serve me together. This was an allowance I made for M's mood. In reality I would prefer to see one woman dominate the other, so in the case of S pissing me off I'd rather watch her serve M, but then M would be enjoying herself nearly as much and would probably also not do a very good job commanding S, knowing that eventually I would get frustrated with that and punish her too. Because of this I really to get M to effectively dominate another woman, although from the few occasions where she did do a good job because she knew that was specifically what I wanted and she seemed prepared to give it to me, I could see that she could in fact do a passable job as a dominant. Her biggest weakness in this area was commanding the other woman to do things to service her. She was rarely convincing barking out an order like “get your face between my cheeks and clean my asshole bitch!” or, “eat my pussy ‘til your face is covered with my juice!” Because these were not things she was interested in. When she knew I was attracted or interested in another slave she was torn between doing a good job of beating their ass, hurting their nipples or fucking their asshole what a big strap on, because she wanted to punish them but at the same time knew how much I would enjoy that and admire watching them take it for me, so you could often see the ambivalence in how she chose to act out the scene. S had a slightly dominant streak and didn't have the same personality as M, and had no problem dominating other women and in fact seemed to enjoy it. Though when she would talk about her fantasies with other women it was always the two of them submitting to made and she was particularly partial to serving alongside another woman, she was very good at dominating the other woman on my behalf. When I got her with M and wanted to see her dominate M these were very rewarding and satisfying times together. But when I wanted to see S dominated by another woman it often took mental preparing of M in advance to get her to give me what I needed and wanted. During those times when it was a last-minute decision because I decided on the way to M's house that S should be dominated by M, it rarely went as well as I'd hoped until later on when M was punished a few times for not being effective, then eventually I think she started to be embarrassed because I would do my best to make her suffer in front of the other woman for embarrassing me by not being convincing in carrying out my commands, then would try and would do a better job. At these times it was very exciting to see M pulling on the leash of a crawling S, demanding S to lick her pussy and then taking her over her lap for a spanking for a supposed poor job, or tying S down for a caning and strap-on ass fuck. For those times when I had them serve as two slaves together, I would tie them down next to each other and beat their asses, one at a time with a small paddle, or together with a long cane or whip. Invariably this is a better concept than practice because with their different builds, one slave gets the strokes a lot harder than the other. Then, I would tie them kneeling over a bench, face to hip, so that on one side of the bench I was looking at the lovely face on one slave and the lovely ass of the other, and vice a versa when I walked to the other side of the bench. This was a favorite when I was with 2 slaves because I loved pulling out of one slave’s pussy or asshole and then fucking the other slaves mouth. S in particular was slow to take my cock in her mouth right from another slave’s ass, even though she could see it was clean and knew if it was not I would not have made her do it, nevertheless, she seemed to need some prodding because she would hesitate until I bent over her and took a small heavy wooden paddle to her ass a few times, or pulled on a chain attached to tight clamps on her nipples (if I should have set a pair). M never balked even though she had no interest in tasting another woman. She told me she assumed I would keep her safe and therefore knew things were clean enough. During any sexual escapades she never offered resistance, except for those few things; touching her asshole, punishing her asshole by impaling herself on something large, or saying particularly submissive things, until she was thoroughly trained. So are you dominant or submissive and do you "force" or like to be "forced"? Let us kno

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LOOK! I put on a translator! And here are some pictures you might like too!

We have so many friends from far away places I thought this might be helpful. I think some of you actually were asking about this, but it is possible I did not understand you!

TRAINED to BEG and a review!!

It has been a very long time since I last posted. Things have gotten much busier in my professional life. I'm going to try to maintain more regular postings and keep up quality here and I will do the best I can. As well as trying to keep up with my usual type of posts , I am also going to introduce some new features. Sometimes the features will incorporate a lot of information and sometimes I will use them to be able to give very specific shorter information. For instance, I plan to start reviewing movies, sites, and bodies of work. I don't really get involved much with professionals but if I should run into anybody who has experience or anyone wants to e-mail me I can incorporate that information as well. There are not a lot of professional submissives out there and I haven't felt the need to inquire of their services. Although I'm always exploring new things I haven't really felt the need to pursue a professional or personal dominatrix. I have thought about hiring national punish some of my slaves in front of me but have yet to do so, and while I am currently exploring some possible new relationships I'm in no position to be doing that with anyone in particular right now.
When I do write reviews and such I am going to post them on both blogs as I think the same things will be interesting to both sets of readers. HOWEVER, I will often accompany these reviews with the kinds of posts you've come to expect from these blogs, and when I do that I am still going to have DIFFERENT content after the reviews in the two different blogs! Please take note of this so that you don't miss content you may be interested in just because you don't feel like rereading the reviews. I will try to make the differentiation very clear.
I am not writing these on behalf of any agency, at anyone's request, or for any expected compensation. I am doing it because clearly I have a readership as intrusive the same things that I am and I thought I would clue you all on the various resources I have found that I particularly enjoy.
So let's try something a little different….
This posts review: :

Tantrum trainers.com and the HOT Northeast dominant Ms. Kelly Payne .
When you visit tantrum trainers or tantrumtrainers

you meet the lovely, voluptuous and very stern and demanding Ms. Kelly Payne. I do some work in Staten Island and I have to admit that many of the attractive women who live their sound just like Ms. Kelly Payne (or at least they have that same accent, I haven't actually heard them give commands or threaten punishment!) For me it's like I get to watch one of those lovely ladies severely punishing some of the other lovely ladies that I run into on the Staten Island ferry. It adds a little extra fun watching the videos, especially since Ms. Kelly Payne is another woman who really knows how to punish! She’s also making great films. These are full length movies. The acting is acceptable from the submissives and always fine from Ms. Kelly and her dominant cohorts . One film I really enjoyed is Baltimore Brat 2 and it should not be missed! (I have included some stills to whet your appetite, as well as wet anything else). There is a large body of work here and the action is consistently severe! Kelly is very attractive and enticing and I love her stern retro lingerie look, although here also I think she would be even more exciting if she were to punish these submissive women in just a thong and maybe a studded black leather bra. Someday I hope to be with some willing female submissives when I am also around the voluptuous Ms. Kelly Payne!! Some of her videos I would make sure to catch besides the Baltimore Brat series are: First Time Spankers part 3, PA Punk, The Disciplinarian and so many, many others! The pics I am using for this post are taken from Baltimore Brat 2, one of my personal favorites. I wanted to include some pics from a couple of other movies but those are in a video format that I could not make stills. An

yway, I am quite sure you will enjoy this site! Here is a link:
http://www.tantrumtrainers.com/

Okay, so I've covered one of the best producer/actor's with some of the best films. The pics in this posting are all taken from Kelly Payne videos available at Tantrum trainers. If you like the stills or the comments I made, I suggest you visit the site at the link I provided above and join or get some videos and you will not be disappointed. Obviously there's a ton of stuff out there I haven't covered---yet. I will be covering a lot more in the near future. However, at this point, I'd like to finish the post by relating some of my experiences having to do with begging. This part of the post was inspired by an online relatively novice submissive by the name of Mel. I had the good fortune of running into her online than e-mailing with her for a while. Then I was not available much just like I haven't been for the blog and now I have not seen her available online in quite some time. She was a good fan of my blogs and was always encouraging me to do my best to try to post. Since she was so interested I asked her what she wanted me to post on next and though it's been months, this was one of the topics she gave me.


TRAINED TO BEG
Begging is an art. While I have known a few slaves who had the right attitude from the beginning, it is rare that any of them were able to beg properly or at least the way I wanted them to, from the beginning. K was probably the best at begging without training. But because of this there was a lack of personalization to what I was looking for. M and S, while not as good at first, were both very willing to be trained and therefore ended up being able to beg exactly the way I wanted to hear it. Also, when training, failure is one of those rare instances that give you a real reason to punish that is also in the context of the D/s relationship. You may have a lot of people out there who enjoy spanking their partner because they broke a dish or got stuck in traffic, but I have always found it less-than-perfect punishing for things if I felt they weren't willful. In these blogs you certainly read were I did punish people for real infractions, but my favorite punishment for infractions is when the infractions or D/s-based. I'm sure when I discuss some of the situations I've been involved in; it will recall some of the past posts I've made.
I know I've mentioned training M to play with her asshole. She was inhibited around us and it took a great deal of punishment before she did it the way I wanted. She always got into position properly, bent over the end of the couch reaching back and spreading her cheeks exposing her tight asshole, and eventually she got good at rubbing her asshole with two fingers, licking them, fucking her asshole with them, pulling them out and sucking on them, then sticking them back in and fucking her asshole some more. It took a lot of caning and paddling of her ass, as well as torturing her nipples with tight clamps and heavy weights, but we got to the point where she could play with her asshole just the way I like to see. However, because of her inhibitions, which I believe I've mentioned made it at least as difficult for her to sometimes talk the way I wanted as act the way I wanted, I got to train her and punish her at least as much before she could properly beg to be allowed to play with her asshole. With her bent over the end of the couch and her ass cheeks spread, I would ask her something like: “would you like to play with your asshole now slave?” The first few times I asked that I got a hesitant “no”. I am quite sure the hesitation was a mix of not wanting to disappoint me and knowing she was going to be punished for it. Nevertheless, she allowed her own inhibitions to make her answer that way. It was only seconds after giving that answer that she would find herself was terribly tight clamps on her nipples, a minimum of 3 pounds or more hanging from each nipple clamp, a caning and/or paddling that got her screaming, and then something very large shoved up her asshole and left there for at least 15 min. I did not receive no for an answer very often after that, though I did get it a few times. Once she was no longer prepared to receive that level of punishment for a simple one-word answer, she started to give me the answer she knew she should, which was; “whatever you would like master,”. To which I would of course answer, “I certainly would like to see you play with your asshole,” to which she knew she should respond with something like, “please master, may I play with my asshole,, please master, I want to play with my asshole so much for you, please let me stick my fingers up my asshole.” But instead she would just start playing with her asshole, knowing that ultimately that's what I wanted to see, and having been broken through punishment of the habit of refusing to do the act, she somehow believed she could escape the begging part if she jumped right to the action. This of course was a mistake on her part and she soon learned through punishment just how big a mistake it was. Whenever the failure surrounded her begging to use her fingers on her ass, I would remind her that I could do much worse things to her asshole. She would have to sit on the punishment chair, which as you may remember had a variety of very large dildos that could be attached to the seat, often large dildos with small rubber spikes or other protrusions all over it. Surrounding the base of the dildo were thumbtacks glued to the seat. M would have to use her mouth and pussy to lubricate the dildo and then sit her asshole on it and work it all the way up inside her until she was sitting on the tacks. For this particular punishment I also had her hands secured behind her back, had her lean forward until her nipples were resting, on a soft wood board I had raised off a table in front of her on a stand. I would then use a tap hammer on a thin pin or needle, and “nail” her nipples to the board. If I were feeling particularly cruel, I would remove the needles every 10 minutes or so, so that she might move freely without damaging her nipples, and then make her raise and lower her ass, fucking the dildo for five or 10 minutes, making sure she raised herself all the way up to the top, then impaled herself completely on the giant shaft again, pushing her buttocks against the sharp tacks each time. Then pinning her nipples once again to the board. In reality this may sound crueler than it was, at least part of it. M told me that the pinning of her nipples to the board, was by far not nearly the worst nipple punishment I had inflicted. She said that the adjustable clamps are used when I tightened them terribly was worse, the self tightening Japanese Clover Clamps, when I hung pounds of weights from them, was worse, and when I use the unsheathed alligator saw toothed nipple clamps, adjusted tightly, it was worse. The worst part was the severe anal torture she was going through, though she found it a bit cruel that I would pull out the needles only to put them back in a few minutes later. She said this because usually when I inflicted this particular form of nipple torture, I tended not to repeat the process, merely to pin her to a board for a while. I explained to her, that I unpinned her during this punishment for the same reason I did it other times. When she is bent over and pinned, I would very much like to fuck her pussy or asshole from behind, but when we tried this once or twice we found the natural movements of these acts, no matter how much we tried to keep her still, put too much strain on her nipples and we were both afraid they would get damaged. It was the same with my having her fuck her asshole every 10 minutes; that I was afraid she would damage her nipples from all the movement. However, since I was not going to allow this fear to shorten the punishment, I needed to work something out. My solution was that she would have to endure the procedure of her nipples getting nailed to the board several times over the course of the punishment. Incidentally, I think I've mentioned that while anal sex always gave a certain amount of pain to M, it also made her very excited and wet. However, fucking her was more of a punishment she was undergoing severe nipple punishment, because the pain in her nipples tended to keep her pussy less wet, and her asshole clenched tighter. So, since I was afraid of damaging her nipples when they were pinned, I would have to satisfy myself by hanging heavy weights off her nipples and then fuck her from behind while she was bent over from the weight. Of course, when she was bent over with the heavy weights swinging from her nipples and the pain evident across her downturned face, I would have her beg to be fucked in her pussy or asshole. Sometimes I would ask her, “don't you think you should be shaking so those weights swing around and pull harder on your nipples?” To which she would answer, “yes master, I think I should shake and make the weights swing around and hurt my nipples more. To which I would reply ”then beg for it bitch!” At her worst, she would give me something like this, in a pretty straight monotone; “please master may I swing the weights and hurt my nipples.” It would sound perfunctory and was not as exciting as I'd hoped, but the content was still good if brief. Later, after training, at her best she could give me something like; “please master, let me swing my tits and shake the clamps and make the weights go swinging. It will hurt my nipples so much more terribly. Please let me hurt them more master. “Or something to that effect. I would like to make it clear that I do not want to choreograph or script everything my slaves say. I did not find that appealing. I have been exposed to that on the other side and it was very annoying. Kayla wanted me to speak a certain way and as the dominant I generally spoke the way she expected but I did not say the exact things she wanted to hear nor did I use the exact words at all times and this disappointed her. However, she would not tell me what she wanted a hero what words because she said that would ruin the experience. That was just another reason why being with Kayla was something that could not work; of many, many reasons. It's just, if I am to get what I want out of it, I need it to be a certain way. I'm sure from reading my post you can pick up on the fact that what I want my slaves to say is as explicit and humiliating as possible. Although slave S liked the acts, she really did not like the word humiliation and preferred embarrassing. That's okay some people have a sensitivity to certain concepts or words from their childhood or their work. If someone's able to give me what they want it doesn't matter how they describe it. For slave S and Kayla using words like asshole, bitch and whore were very easy. For K, she did not have experience using them but easily started to because she had no inhibitions. For M in particular, who had no experience and had inhibitions, it was more difficult. That is why she required extensive training, not so that she would be scripted by me to say exactly what I wanted her to, but to teach her generally what I expected by using specifics so that she would begin to figure out on her own what was likely to be pleasing to me. I would be interested in hearing from you readers what you get out of begging, whether you or begging or being begged. Obviously, begging is not something on its own but is attached to the asked you begging for. Slave S’s inhibition had to do with licking and sucking on things that had been deep up her own or anyone else's asshole. As I've mentioned in previous posts I would always check an item that had been up an ass before I expected a slave to lick it clean as I am not into scat and I'm not looking to make anyone ill. But I do seem to prefer the humiliation of someone being forced to clean something that had been up an ass. Slave S would have no problem begging to do anything, but getting her to act on the begging was difficult around this issue. I would often make her wear a particularly large butt plug up her asshole when we would go out. When we would get back I would take it out and check it. Now in front of a slave like M, I would check it behind her back because she did not need to see that it was clean because if I asked her to lick anything she would do so without reservation or inhibition. S was not that way, so I would allow her to see that I checked it so she would know it was clean. Unfortunately this didn't help her inhibition very much, so often with S, I would simply have to allow her to take severe punishment knowing that I would have to stop at some point and be satisfied with how much I got to punishment her because the punishment would not make her accept licking the item. On rare occasions when she was feeling in some way particularly submissive she would allow herself to eventually be" broken" and acquiesce to my command. Because of these inhibitions watching S lick clean something that had been in her asshole, or watching M beg and then play with her asshole, were some of the most exciting things I experienced because those were moments when these wonderful women were truly submitting in every sense of the word--- to me.